September 26, 2003

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Department of thoroughly redundant sentences

From Britannica.com:

The anticolonialist movement in Vietnam can be said to have started with the establishment of French rule.

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*snicker*

Posted by: shell on September 26, 2003 08:05 PM

Indeed. Although, strangely, it didn't start until the second iteration of French rule. Vietnam had been colonized by everyone under the sun for decades with little complaint.

Posted by: James Joyner on September 26, 2003 08:22 PM

Actually, I believe the Vietnamese did successfully resist Chinese (Ming Dynasty?) invasion.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael on September 26, 2003 09:10 PM

Why is this redundant? Lots of colonies have gone on for years and years without anything that could be called an anticolonialist movement. Apparently Vietnam got one right away.

Posted by: Ssuma on September 26, 2003 11:53 PM

Ssuma's right. Barring unusual context, the sentence is clearly intended to stress that Vietnamese opposition to the French started from the very beginning. Most people would otherwise assume that it began after World War II with Ho Chi Minh.

Posted by: Brittain33 on September 27, 2003 02:11 PM

Well, no, Ssuma is half-right. The French were the last in a long line of Empires to conquer southeast Asia.

It is rather like the average Indian's concentration on Britain as THE IMPERIAL OPPRESSOR, when in fact, Britain was also the last in a long litany of conquerors.

Not to mention far less oppressive than India's own attempts at self-rule prior. Give me the Highlanders and the Raj anyday if my alternative is thuggee and suttee.

Posted by: Franklin Jennings on September 28, 2003 04:51 PM

Why not just let them go and be free?! That's all is so bad. Hope someday we'll be far from all these politics and wars and ect!!!!

Posted by: Steve on September 29, 2003 08:29 AM

Steve: I hope we have a happy rainbow land filled with unicorns, too! And puppies and ect!!!

Posted by: Sigivald on September 29, 2003 03:12 PM

Not to mention far less oppressive than India's own attempts at self-rule prior. Give me the Highlanders and the Raj anyday if my alternative is thuggee and suttee.

Flies in the face of settled history. Mortality statistics (for example, those presented in Mike Davis' "Late Victorian Holocausts") demonstrate quite clearly that the Indians were much better off under the moghuls than the British.

Posted by: dsquared on September 29, 2003 04:42 PM

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