Here's what I wrote about TiVo last year:
. . . it's been five years, and TiVo still isn't turning a profit. This is surprisingly common with new technologies; innovators often (even usually) aren't the people who end up making money off the market. They invent their bright idea, and then some established player, one with the complementary assets like distribution channels and marketing departments, comes over and horns in just as it's getting profitable. As the old saying goes, smart ain't the same as rich.
Now comes some exciting news from the Dow Jones newswire:
TiVo Inc. reported a narrower loss for the third quarter and revenue rose nearly 30% as the company reached four million subscriptions helped by its partnership with DirecTV.For the three months ended Oct. 31, TiVo lost $14.2 million, or 17 cents per share, compared with a loss of $26.4 million, or 33 cents a share, in the year-ago period. Revenue was $49.6 million, up from $38.3 million last year.
For the third quarter, TiVo added 434,000 new subscribers, compared with 419,000 in the year-ago period. A large portion of those new accounts, 379,000, were from DirecTV Group satellite TV subscribers, instead of consumers who purchased TiVo's standalone DVRs.
TiVo, which pioneered DVRs that lets users easily record television shows to a hard drive and pause live TV, is facing tough competition from cable companies as it strives to reach sustainable profitability.
In the second quarter, the company reported its first ever profit -- albeit a small one of $240,000 -- but the company has forecast future quarterly losses as it plans to increase sales and marketing efforts to boost subscriber numbers. On Tuesday, it cautioned that its fourth-quarter loss will be between $17 million and $22 million.
Remember, excitement is relative. A couple years ago, I thought Amazon was doomed too.
However, DirecTV has announced that they're going to be selling their own PVR. Tivo's may be better, but what fraction of the new customers that Tivo needs to become profitable will go with cheaper?
Yes, Tivo is trying to cut deals with cable companies, but they have PVRs too, so it's not clear that Tivo will see a lot of revenue from the CableCos.
Posted by: Andy Freeman on November 29, 2005 08:20 PMI am a long time TiVo user (just installed #3 after Nielson broke #2, #1 still going strong), and I hate to say it, but I am going to replace the whole danged thing with an X-Box 360.
Though the reverse tivo-to-go (copy things to your Tivo to watch them on your TV) and the open source application framework (get plugins for your tivo that run on your PC - things like iTunes, Podcasts, RSS feeds, control your PC, etc) have really given it new legs in the last 3 months.
TiVo will always be my first, though. I will remember her fondly forever. Especially when she sang "Pop goes the weasel!"
Posted by: Donut on November 29, 2005 09:11 PMSeems to me that Tivo for years did a poor job of explaining to people just what their product really *was*. They spent lots of $ on advertising, but the ads were apparently pretty strange, featuring themes like "how to make a network executive cry" (as if anyone cared)
Nice idea, very well-done user interface, poor marketing.
(former Tivo shareholder)
Posted by: David Foster on November 29, 2005 10:05 PMThe inventors, or at least the founders of Tivo have done very well once the company went public, no matter how long it takes it to turn a profit. The other people who joined Tivo later have not become as rich, but then their work was not as groundbreaking. So, at least in high-tech, smart IS rich.
Posted by: Joe on November 29, 2005 11:07 PMDavid Foster brings up a very good point. I've heard of TiVo for the past few years. However, its only been in the past few months that I've actually been able to get a handle on what exactly it is that a TiVo does (as opposed to a VCR). Now, granted, I'm not a TV fan and don't watch all that often due to time constraints (Gee, wouldn't that put me pretty solidly in their target market?), but I don't exactly live in a box, either. Strangely, though, I've found this situation with a great deal of marketing. Products come out with new and often useful features, and I don't know about them (at least from the ads). It sometimes seems that the advertising world is more interested in building impressive portfolios than selling products.
Posted by: Bill on November 30, 2005 07:27 AM"It sometimes seems that the advertising world is more interested in building impressive portfolios than selling products."
It's the responsibility of corporate marketing managers (ie, those who work for TiVo, not their creative agency) to make sure this doesn't happen. The poor advertisements commonly associated with IT firms points to weaknesses in those industry's marketing staffs.
Posted by: jult52 on November 30, 2005 08:40 AMI think there is also the problem of the two cultures. The kinds of workers who make arresting ads that can speak to the public and their advertising peers don't take well to tech toys. They themselves may not "get" it. So the tech people must communicate to the marketing people who must somehow grok all this and communicate it to the -- you know -- real PEOPLE.
Just think of how long it took for Hollywood to fully get special effects or just read about the hilarious encounters between creative and programming teams who design big budget video games -- especially 10-15 years ago when the average actor didn't know what Doom even was.
Posted by: jn on November 30, 2005 11:48 AMGeez, I must be an advertising retard. It took me a couple of years to figure out that the point of Dockers pants was to hide your paunch, and I still haven't figured out what the logic of the new men's deodorant is, other than its somehow supposed to be "sexy".
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