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You go Jane!

A friend of mine was in shock over the news. "How can Karl Rove not get indicted?" I held back my tongue for civility sakes, but I so wanted to reply, "I don't know. Could it be because he didn't break the law?"

Yeah, he didn't break the law.

Just don't say he did nothing wrong.

Okay, just what did he do that was wrong? Maybe he shouldn't have outed the lies of Joe Wilson?

It's perfectly fine to say "I told you so" in a context like this. You can't, of course, say it to a friend or family member, because you have to live with them (more or less). Something like this? Sure! (A modicum of glee would not be inappropriate, either -- but just a tiny bit.)

Rex:

Yeah, I'm sure the leak that Joe Wilson's wife was an undercover CIA agent, mere days after he published his opinion piece, is just one of those crazy coincidences ...

I can't decide if it amazes or horrifies me how much Republicans will trust the government when their own boys are in office.

Joe,

And just why do you think Valerie was a "covert" agent (to use the term of art)? All the facts and analyses I have seen show rather clearly that she did not meet the definition of covert.

Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald apparently either doesn't think she was covert, or hasn't been able or willing to determine who "outed" her. However, it was not Rove, in his opinion.

Yeah, I'm sure the leak that Joe Wilson's wife was an undercover CIA agent, mere days after he published his opinion piece, is just one of those crazy coincidences ...

Yeah except for the little matter of the fact that she wasn't a covert agent. But thanks for playing.

The thing I want to know is what kind of omelet is Mark "Rove has been indicted" Kleiman wearing on his face these days?

'...Joe Wilson's wife was an undercover CIA agent...'

Except that she wasn't.

'...mere days after he published his opinion piece, is just one of those crazy coincidences ...'

No, it was background information that came out in correcting Wilson's lie that he'd been sent to Niger by Dick Cheney and had come back and reported to him that Iraq wasn't buying uranium in Africa.

Yeah, I'm sure the leak that Joe Wilson's wife was an undercover CIA agent, mere days after he published his opinion piece, is just one of those crazy coincidences ...

The leak was that she worked for the CIA, and the purpose of leaking that information was to explain why an individual as incompetent and unqualified as Joe Wilson had been recommended for the mission by the CIA. So no, it wasn't a coincidence, but it was also neither wrong nor illegal. What was wrong was Plame recommending an unqualified hack for a job of critical importance to national security just because she was fucking him.

I can't decide if it amazes or horrifies me how much Republicans will trust the government when their own boys are in office.

Republicans put their trust in elected officials, while Democrats put their trust in the Central Intelligence agency and career government bureacrats. It is your call which of those attitudes is more "horrifying".

I tend to agree with you, Dan, but that description of what seems to be a happy marriage is a bit uncharitable.

"Republicans put their trust in elected officials"

Yep, that's the horrifying part. Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater are spinning in their graves.

Thorley -

check http://www.samefacts.com/archives/valerie_plame_/2006/06/thoughts_on_the_rove_nonindictment.php

He starts with "1. Damn!"

Yep, that's the horrifying part. Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater are spinning in their graves.

Um, no. Reagan and Goldwater thought it was foolish to put your trust in *government* -- and not because government is necessarily malicious, as lefties assume the Bush government is, but because government is inefficient and wasteful. Neither man bought into the modern-day leftie/libertarian belief that the President devotes his day to thinking up new ways to violate people's rights for the sheer evil glee of doing so. They believed that the government did a lot of things that it shouldn't be doing. "Waging war against people who want to kill us" was not, however, on their list of such things.

And neither elected official was opposed to people trusting elected officials. :)

Define "wrong".

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